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robinnood

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UNKNOWN CARD
« on: May 22, 2016, 09:59:37 AM »
A FRIEND OF MINE ASKED IF ANYONE COULD GIVE HIM AN IDEA AS TO WHO WAS THE MAKER OF THESE CARDS.

Athelstan

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 10:30:56 AM »
Anything on the back?

robinnood

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 09:57:59 PM »
JUST A PLAIN BACK WHICH GIVES NO HELP.

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 11:40:11 AM »
Likely BAT or classed as anonymous, do recognise his image.
Always looking for interesting cards and associated goods issued by Ogden's you can see samples of cards I am looking for in the wants section.
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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2016, 07:13:25 PM »
Beatty commanded part of the British naval squadron at the battle of Jutland and THINK he was promoted to admiral just after this so card is probably from circa 1916-1917?

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2016, 08:28:20 PM »
Yeah that'd be about right. A similar image featured on a set called Our Empire's Defenders in 1916 so it's either 1916 or shortly after. I'm with David in that blank back usually means BAT but I've searched all my tobacco reference books on blank backed BAT and can't find a set that would fit the bill (if anyone knows otherwise please jump in as it's stumped me!). That being the case I'm leaning towards anonymous trade so I'll ask Vernon if he's seen the image and the ornamentation done by other issuers where examples are known with blank backs...
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Cedric1812

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2016, 08:30:31 PM »
Update following my note to Vernon: 'If the size is 66 x 34, then I think it must be one of a set of 50 of Great War Celebrities, ref. ZJG-070, all listed at HZ-31.3' :) I'll look them up and list them later on for you.
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robinnood

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2016, 07:01:34 PM »
thanks to all who have contributed to this thread, i thought the cards were about 1915 ish due to m goremykin being one of the cards , the measurement of 66 by 34 is more or less right, i look forward to hearing who you think the maker is.

Cedric1812

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Re: UNKNOWN CARD
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2016, 11:05:47 PM »
I'm afraid no one knows who issued them. They are formally listed as anonymous in the handbook. I can tell you though that the others in the series that are known are:

Man. Gen. Sir. H. H. Allenby
Rt. Hon. H. H. Asquith, Premier of Great Britain
Sir R. Baden-Powell
Admiral Sir D. Beatty
H.M. King of Belgium
Rt. Hon. R.L. Borden, Premier of Canada
Lord Buxton, Gov Gen of SA
Winston S. Churchill 1st Lord of Admiralty
Admiral Sir S. Colville
The Duke of Connaught
M. Delcasse
H.M. The King of Denmark
H.M.S. 'Devonshire'
General Douglas
Mr. And. Fisher, Australian Premier
Admiral Sir John French
H.M. King George V
Hon. D. Lloyd George
Comre. W.E. Goodenough
H.M. King George of Greece
M. Goremykin, Russian Premier
Sir E. Grey, Foreign Minister
Gen. Sir D. Haig
Gen. Sir Ian Hamilton
Lord Hardinge, Viceroy of India
H.M. King of Italy
Admiral Sir J. R. Jellicoe
F.M. Earl Kitchener
Rear Admiral C. E. Madden
Admiral Sir W. May
Admiral Sir. Berkeley Milne
Monoplane in flight
Gen. Sir Arch. Murray
M. S. Lord Nelson
President Poincare
F.M. Lord Roberts
H. M. The Czar of Russia
M. Sazanoff, Russian Foreign Minister
H.M. King of Servia
Gen. Sir H. Smith-Dorrien
H.M. King of Spain
A Submarine of 'E' class
H.M. Destroyer 'Tigress'
Admiral R.Y. Tyrwhitt
H.R.H. Prince of Wales
Vice Ad. Sir G. Warrender
H.M. Yoshihito. Emp. of Japan
Zeppelin Airship
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